编辑同志：任免机关或监察机关自行决定作出的行政处分决定同需报有关部门批准的行政处分决定的生效日期是否一样？如不一样，其生效日期应如何起算？山东：甄英甄英同志：根据国家有关规定，国家公务员受到行政处分，其所受行政处分的时间自有法定的批准处分权的国家行政机关 Editor comrades: The decision of the administrative penalty made by the appointment and dismissal organ or the supervisory organ at its discretion is the same as the effective date of the administrative sanction decision that needs to be reported to the relevant department for approval? If not, how should its effective date? Shandong: Zhenying Zhenying: According to the relevant provisions of the State, state civil servants are subject to administrative sanctions. The time for administrative sanctions imposed by them has their own statutory authority to approve the disposition of the state administrative organs