“国有企业最大的难处就是婆婆管得太多了” 记者:你当过多年的工人和厂长,对国营企业可以说是十分了解。那么,你认为许多国营企业至今搞不好,除了领导班子素质以外,还有其它原因吗? 马胜利:我在前面讲到,由于我个人的失误而导致了造纸厂的失败。我觉得,国营企业各有各的情况,搞不好也各有各的原因。但是,一个企业的兴衰还有很多客观原因,它包括社会的原因、舆论的原因、政府的原因,其中政府的干 “The biggest difficulty of state-owned enterprises is that too many mother-in-laws are under control.” Reporter: When you worked as a worker and factory manager for many years, you can say that the state-owned enterprises are very well-informed. Well, do you think that many state-owned enterprises have not worked well so far. Apart from the quality of the leadership team, there are other reasons? Ma Shengli: I mentioned earlier that due to my personal mistakes, the paper mill failed. I think that the state-owned enterprises have their own situations and they have different reasons. However, there are many objective reasons for the rise and fall of a company. It includes the reasons of society, the reasons of public opinion, and the reasons of the government.