俄罗斯《新时代》杂志总编阿历山大·普姆列扬斯基于2002年底采访了美国《福布斯》杂志的出版人兼总编史蒂夫·福布斯。福布斯纵论当今世界,谈到了美国的危机、俄罗斯的政策、伊拉克的战争及共和党与民主党之间的争吵。他强调:“寡头并不是资本家,不过是些窃贼……我们美国是没有寡头的。” Alexander Primiusky, editor-in-chief of New Times magazine of Russia, interviewed Steve Forbes, publisher and editor-in-chief of Forbes magazine in late 2002. Forbes on the current world, talked about the crisis in the United States, Russia’s policy, the war in Iraq and Republican-Democrat quarrel. He emphasized: “The oligarchs are not capitalists, but they are thieves ... we in the United States have no oligarchs.”