R.H:你有个声誉,听起来很不平常,都说你沉迷于各种似乎处于艺术边缘的行为艺术之中,而知道你是个物体艺术创造者的却不多。你自认为是雕塑家吗?首先是艺术家,其次是雕塑家,对吗? J.B:是的,不错。我把自己的作品首先看作是一种创造,其次是艺术品,再则是雕塑。当然,我最感兴趣的是其雕塑上的意义,我以此为基础推衍出更广、更深的观念。 R.H: You have a reputation, it sounds very unusual, all say you indulge in a variety of art seems to be in the margins of art, and know you are an object creator but not much. Do you think of yourself as a sculptor? The first is the artist, the second is the sculptor, right? J.B: Yes, not bad. I see my work first as a creation, then as a work of art, then as a sculpture. Of course, what I am most interested in is its sculptural meaning, on the basis of which I derive a broader and deeper concept.